out there so you have to stand up and make clear they don't represent your faith. people think they're fine, oh, that's right, that's part of the faith. >> hogan, i want your response to that. first, stephanie, what do you think about that point, christianity could be defined by people like pat robertson. to dean's point as a muslim, that is as bad as what's happening to the muslim faith. >> well, erin, this is what, as i'm listening to this whole conversation, annoys the bejesus out of me, pardon me. this is a guy that has a lot to say about homosexuality, something jesus never mentioned. apparently, he's a little loopholey about the whole adultery thing which as hogan said is very clear in the bible. so to just say ah, men wander, and then go on television and say gays are promiscuous and that's why it's immoral, this is just, you know, it's disgusting, honestly. >> hogan, let me play that, as dean and stephanie both referred to other things pat robertson has said. for those out there who don't listen to his radio program, which i'm sure there are some who watch this program, let me play it.